@UKIP time to start arguing the case for leaving the EU.

Reasons I wish to leave the EU.
I actually voted against the Common Market, because I couldn’t see the sense in severing Commonwealth ties just to make it easier to cross The Channel.

This was at a time, when most still holidayed in Britain and places like New Brighton were more crowded than a Harrods sale.

It was a time when New Zealand Lamb was so cheap that people bought breast of lamb to feed the dog, sugar had just come off ration and along with banana’s etc., it was growing the economies of the Caribbean islands and reducing poverty in the region.(Cuba was excluded, because of the USA’s embargo).

At the time it was a Common Market, a protectionist association. To me, it seemed its main concern was to enrich French peasants, especially as we later learned of the obscenities of the effects of the Common Agricultural Policy.

It wasn’t just a case of pauperising those outside the Common Market:
New Zealand and Jamaica were severely crippled for a time by restrictions on imports of lamb and sugar, amongst many other commodities which the French and their colonies (these were Common Market members) could provide at an artificially high price. (Even now Lamb is the most expensive of meats in the supermarket.)

French farmers were given guaranteed prices for their produce, resulting in butter mountains and milk lakes.
These weren’t actual mountains of butter but specially built refrigerated warehouses for storing the butter that was too expensive to buy. We also learned of wine lakes and olive oil lakes. I don’t know what happened to this produce, because it wasn’t shipped out to those countries, where people were starving and might have been able to make use of it. Perhaps it went into landfill, All I do know is reports ended (with one exception, see later), without any sign of a drop on commodity prices.

At the time, we joined the Common Market, the main source of protein in British households was fish. The Fish and Chip shops existed because of this. That’s all they sold. Friday evening, everyone, in my neighbourhood, stormed the local chippies, some carrying their own plates. Business was so good that the chipshop would buy your old newspapers to cope with demand.

People would fish, from boats, for herring, using wooden planks with bent, six-inch nails through them, because herring were that numerous.

My mum would come home from the Saturday market with several pounds of sprats, or crab legs etc.

Our waters were teeming with fish and our fishing fleet was HUGE.

When we joined the Common Market, our fishing rights became theirs.
Our waters were raped by the French and Spanish fleets. Quota’s were introduced but they were only enforced on the British fleet, which has been devastated and is barely hanging on.

At some point, the Common Market became the E.U., with its own flag, Government, Parliament, Law courts and Law’s and open border’s.
That’s when Europe turned into a lunatic Asylum.
The biggest hit was VAT. This was a tax to fund the new bureaucracy and, seemingly, criminal gangs.
I mentioned earlier about the butter mountains, which have disappeared under the radar. Apparently they still exist, because one group of criminals has creamed off millions in shipping refrigerated lorry loads from one country to another and back again, taking advantage of VAT variations and “reclaiming” the difference. I assume that other scams of a similar nature are still being perpetrated, because each country has its own police with its own language, its own customs, its own ethos and centuries of History and tradition to hamper co-operation (witness the Maddie McCann case).
This is an aside from the iniquity of VAT. At present, one fifth of all the money we spend goes to support the EU bureaucracy. We are told it can’t be cut (despite Gordon Brown doing so,immediately after this pronouncement). It is a huge tax and falls unfairly on the poorest.
No matter what our income, we all pay the same price for gas, milk etc.Using Mr Micawber’s income of £20: Expenditure of £18 increased by 20% means bankruptcy. Income of £2000 and same expenditure,increased by 20%, means less in the bank, earning interest.

Vat is a bad tax and like the TV licence fee, the Community Charge, purchase tax, NHS charges etc, which aren’t related to income, it is savagely unfair on the lower income population.

What about Justice? Maggie scrapped Habeas Corpus and her idolator, Blair, brought in the Anti-terrorist legislation, which means that we can now be imprisoned, almost indefinitely, without trial and tried in a closed court.

At least we still have a presumption of innocence, until proven guilty. This is not the case in countries such as super-civilised France.

Under EU law, a person using my identity could commit a crime in France, or the other side of Europe. eg. the war torn Ukraine and I could be dragged out of my bed and hauled off to rot in one of their jails and told to prove that I was innocent. Perhaps this scenario is unlikely, perhaps the newspapers are lying (we know they can) but where are the denials? Would I be able to trust the denials?

If we left the EU, that worry goes away.

Then there’s the ECHR.

Undoubtedly, it may well have introduced legislation to limit doctor’s hours, amongst other laws. So What?
If our Gov’t wasn’t so rubbish, they’d introduce such laws.

Do we really need to be in the EU to expect our politicians to do their job of watching out for and legislating against unfair practices?
On the other hand I’m getting rather tired of our elected MP’s telling us that The Government can not deport rapists and murderer’s, because of human right’s law.
If they have been found guilty of such crimes then they shouled be punished for them and if they can’t be deported, then they should be detained until some kinder regime offer’s to take them off our hands.

We have enough problems with our homegrown psycho’s being allowed to walk out of jail, without EU law insisting that we take theirs.
Like many of the apologists on Question Time, I,too, can preface my discussion of immigration with the assertion that I have immigrant ancestry. Totalled up I am, effectively, half Irish with perhaps a dash of Jewish blood in the mix.
Anyhow! I can’t object to further immigration, even, if so inclined.

But I can object to un-regulated immigration. I’m not overly concerned about the quality of immigrant, so long as we aren’t just taking other nation’s derelicts and criminals. What concerns me is the effect, which I see, locally, of houses being shoe-horned into every miniscule plot of unused urban real estate. We have no proper planning  being applied to this.
As an example, there is a main road between what used to be two villages located between two major towns. A large section of that road has had housing estate, upon housing estate appended to it via one or two streets.
No consideration has been given to the effect on traffic congestion or to the supply of sewage, water supply, gas, electric, or any of the other privatised utilities.

No consideration for the effect of a need for a rapid evacuation of these estates.

The infrastructure that was built to support a thousand households, now has to cope with ten times that number .
We have had lots of tales, this Summer, about flooding, in the South, but up here it’s chronic flooding of sewers with the obvious unsavoury consequences. I’m sure the Council is trying, within its shrinking budget, to do enough to pacify residents but the problem not only persists, it is growing.
Austerity measures may be necessary (I don’t believe this) and immigration may be wonderful for growth (never explained how) but joined up policy it is not.
Leaving the EU may not solve the problem but it would stop making it worse.
I have lots of other petty niggles, which might not go away with leaving the EU, because much arises from ill-considered applications of “those who care” and the people who can profit from them.
The imposition of the “new energy efficient” house lights was an unwanted disaster, only rescued by the advent of LED lamps.
The landfill directive has produced a disaster in terms of waste collection (the main function of Councils, for most of us.  Green sympathiser’s are blindly adhering to the recycling mantra to support the proliferation of big ugly wheelie bins, which are either emptied and scattered along our pavements, or stand in rows marring the frontage of our houses, like warts on a once pretty face.  I’m all for re-cycling but this despoliation of our towns and disruption of our lives with threats and penalties, or at least, sanctimonious hectoring, for failure to fully comply, is incommensurate with the simpler expedient of post-collection sorting.

The EU has taken anti-monopoly action against Microsoft. Good but how effective? Microsoft still controls our computer usage, forcing us to buy newer but never really better products.

It has also required websites to use pop-ups to warn us that they are sticking cookies on our computers. In the process, requiring us to click on acceptance of them before granting access to their site. What wonderful thinking! Cookies are a real pain, which use up computer memory making your computer run slower and slower and making it take hours to run anti-virus scans. Unfortunately that still happens unless you are aware of freeware such as Ccleaner to clear them out on a regular basis. It doesn’t stop the little add-on cookies that are down-loaded from spyware and trackers, unless you have browser add-ons that detect and delete them. All that has really changed, THANKS TO THE EU is that every window you open has to have its cookie warning zapped on the (x).
I’m getting tired and will no doubt recall other irritations later but I’ll leave this with a BIGGY.
The EU is signing, on our behalf, an agreement to give Big Business the right to overrule those Government decisions, which act against their interest.  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_Trade_and_Investment_Partnership)

E.g. privatisation of the NHS has been really pushed during this Parliament, in order to get it all done before this treaty comes into effect. I suspect it’s so the next “Labour” government can plead that it can’t roll it back, even if we leave the EU, which it will refuse to do.
We are being sold into servitude to a World Government, which will have as much concern for our welfare, as a farmer has for his batteries of hens.
We need out of the EU, very soon, preferably now.

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